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And with what hands is that, specifically?
Jan. 16
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My default-bid is 2, unless I have a really lousy suit, or perhaps quacks in the side-suits.

But I particularly like 2 when I have really good spot-cards, ideally something like
QT98x
or better.
Jan. 16
Stefan Olausson edited this comment Jan. 16
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Better avoid the best line then, and this will never be an issue

;)
Jan. 12
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Is that acbl rule?
Never heard of it here.
Jan. 12
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@Ian
I'm talking abt the 2 opener's tempo, not the next player.

It's important that you open 2 in the same tempo when you have a weak-2, as when you have, say, a 25+NT or a GF -hand, if your pd has a habit of passing a forcing 2 opening.
Jan. 12
Stefan Olausson edited this comment Jan. 12
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Yes, although it might also have its ethics aspects.
At least in typical non-elite level games…

If not taking this into consideration,
many openers are much quicker to casually execute their opening bid when holding a weak 6card major, than with some kind of really strong hand.

Easy for responder to PASS if opener took 1.3 secs to put the bid on the table.
More risky to PASS if he studied his hand for like 20 secs, then thoughtfully placed it on the table.
Jan. 12
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Not necessarily.
If pd gets to know I have 4 hearts, and they bid 2, he can chose to let them play it when we have no fit, or compete when we have.
Jan. 12
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Depends on whether 2 also contains a strong option (=forcing) or not (=non-forcing).
Jan. 12
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On a related note, when started to play Multi-2 longtime ago, we used the approach, that if they overcalled in any suit it was penalty-X.

Then, on some hand, I had an impossible decision with a disastrous result, because LHO overcalled pd's 2 with 3M, and it couldn't tell whether he was preempting in my pd's long major or the short one :)

After that, switched to play X of a major-overcall as pass-only-if-this-is-your-long-suit :)
While X of minor overcalls are still for penalties.
Jan. 11
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Yeah, as I wrote above, if 2 has no strong option and is non-forcing, it is a different animal.
Much trickier to defend against.

Most players in my area, though, seem to include either a strong NT-range or Acol-2 or other strong option in 2 Multi.

So if non-forcing, yes, might need a different approach.
Jan. 11
Stefan Olausson edited this comment Jan. 11
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OK.
But if you examine this subthread carefully, you notice my comment was in response to Jacek Sikora's comment above, where he mentioned
2/2 as takeouts, while
X = any 5card major.

Then it seems you hijacked this subthread arguing abt a different defense :)
Jan. 11
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I strongly agree that any takeout-doubler should normally PASS initially, so you know which suit opener has before making your takeout.

If RHO opens 1S, it would be quite embarrassing to takeout-X with 4144! :)
Jan. 11
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Sorry, im getting confused now by all the various defences suggested here… :)

Weren't we discussing 2/2 as either
A) takeout of the suit bid, vs
B) takeout of the other major?

What does your DBL over 2 mean?
Jan. 11
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No, that's what I wrote. Bidding the short major, is obviously better when first-hand is strong, so he gets another bid.

On the other hand, if you takeout by bidding your better major, you may not need to commit to the 3-level with short spades.
Jan. 11
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>“Remember, you wouldn't have been able to overcall 2♥ over a WK2♠!”

True.
But if 2M is natural, you CAN over 2!
:)
Jan. 11
Stefan Olausson edited this comment Jan. 11
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dont really get it, I think….
“2♥ as T/O of ♥ importantly allows a 2♠ advance”

Why is that important, unless takeout-bidder is strong?
If you instead play 2 as t/o of hearts, advancer will just pass 2 instead of bidding 2.
Jan. 11
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Still, what do you do with a natural overcall, say:
xxx AKQxx x KJxx

Start bidding it on the 3-level?
Jan. 11
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>“2M as take out of that major”

On the majority of hands (normal strength) it seems better to bid you better major as takeout of the other major.

Bidding the short major seems advantageous only on very strong hands, since you will then get to bid again.
Jan. 11
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>“2nt for minors is not the best imo. They may have both major suit, preemptive values of 2nt overcall are not so great as they can overbid us.”

You should normally not preempt against preempts.
If you play 2NT as minors, it should only be a constructive hand where you think we might own the hand.
Thus, good opening values, or better.
Jan. 11
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And what do you do with a natural overcall, say:

xxx AKQxx x KJxx?

If you initially pass this hand, you might only be able to introduce your suit at the 4-level next round.
Jan. 11
Stefan Olausson edited this comment Jan. 11
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