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I had answered that I play continuous range.

mini maxi was included because some others asked, not my thing.

I would like to correct your statement to say that, yu chang does not know mini maxi or split range.
but he does know what he is playing.
Jan. 15
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Ron, Sorry for the confusion. I do play continuous range myself. But as suggested by some other poster, I added a very bad definition for mini-maxi. I probably should edit it again based on LTC. However, since I do not really play mini-maxi, I really am not sure how others play.
Jan. 13
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yes, I do play continuous range. so the discussion was irrelevant as you suggested.

but is south hand really maxi?
against peg’s example kjxxx xx x qjxxx, you may lose 6-7 tricks.

I plan to open a new post for that question.
Jan. 13
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henry, with all due respect, I think you are wrong. you are not reading or understanding what I said.
the difference is that there is a 3C bid. When my partner could not bid that to show slight interest, then I will not go over 3D with this borderline maxi hand.
Jan. 13
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@Steve @Peg Thanks!

My own assessment is similar to what Steve said above and what Peg said in an earlier reply.

North hand is enough for limit raise. I actually think it is more since Aces has more value facing partner's distributive hand. Also, 4 card support is also big.
After 3D, South will not be able to tell whether North has a hand like KJxxx, x, xx, QJxxx (this is from Peg's earlier post) or a limit raise+ hand like what he actually has.

My partner and I do not have a firm agreement on mini-maxi, my own preference is if I can make one bid to show 2 suits, I will just make the bid. I forgot which world champion made this comment, but I think it is either Wolff or Gazozzo.

A few posters pointed out it is not good to use points to define mini or maxi, I agree. and I also agree using LTC is much better. However, our style is to show decent 2-suiters as soon as possible, unless you have some defense on short suits.

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Some made a comment that South hand is definitely in the maxi range, I would agree.
But is it good enough to push to 4D when partner has KJxxx, x, xx, QJxxx?
I would if my diamonds were just a little bit better such as KJT9xx.
But with KT9xxx, that suit is NOT good enough for rebid facing a singleton or even doubleton in partner's hand.

I hope those 4D bidders will re-consider this possibility.
And I feel those who jump to 5D directly would realize your “gamble” worked this time.
Bridge is not poker, I do not gamble, at least not like this, in bridge.

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All that said, there is another scenario to think about.
Switch Hearts with Clubs and the bidding went (1M) 2NT (Pass) 3D, I will have no choice but bid 4D to invite with this close to maxi hand.

But the actual bidding was different.
North could easily bid 3C (lower than both of known suits) as Cuebid support to invite.
The fact that he did not do that, made me think he could not have a decent hand, thus I passed his 3D to play.
And that is what I told partner (that he should have bid 3C) after the board was played.

Now do you think South had a good reason to pass 3D with his maxi hand?
Jan. 12
Yu Chang edited this comment Jan. 12
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Modify the post to show the value for 2NT is either mini (8-11)or maxi (15+).
Jan. 11
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Max, Thank you very much for the good words. You are one of the players I respect too.
Dec. 13, 2017
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Hi, Ray, I have said the following a few times:

I want to make it very clear that not only I did not want to create UI, I was trying to avoid it.

If that is not clear enough. My pause was to avoid making it look like a penalty double.
My pause was try to make it look like normal tempo. And it was within 5-10 sec.
Nov. 22, 2017
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@Max, The thing is, I thought I paused a moment to be within normal tempo. I admit I might be a little too self conscious and waited a little too long. But I still did not think that was out of normal range.

Your example of leading a singleton was good.
Nov. 21, 2017
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@James, No harm feeling at all. I did not think you were but thanks for clarifying it.
Nov. 21, 2017
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Thanks to everyone who had answered and helped.

I want to make it clear that I wanted to double for penalty as soon as the opponent made the bid. My hand was Q98x T KQx ATxxx, partner had already bid 1H and 2D, so I will have a easy first lead of heart singleton 10. I expect to get spade Queen, a heart ruff, Club Ace and a Diamond trick. Partner who bid 1H and 2D should get 1-2 or even more tricks. On their side, they can get 5 spades but not many tricks on the side suits.
200 would worth a top in matchpoint.

But I thought an instant double would be unethical, so I paused for a moment.

I want to make it very clear that not only I did not want to create UI, I was trying to avoid it.

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People questioned why I got annoyed?

I was annoyed because the director call was made a few seconds AFTER my partner pulled the double by bidding 3C.

Does the opponent think she can make 2S and my pause was to consider whether to compete?
But I made a call and we are moving forward!

Does she think I paused because it was for penalty? But it was taken out ALREADY.

At that time, I felt we got put in a no win situation. If we got good score, director could adjust it. If we get bad score, we stay with the bad score. For example, if 2S would make, can the director adjust to -110 for us?

This is why I have determined that I will have a different action against this player who would use director calls to her advantage. I hope a similar situation will happen and I will just double without thinking and see what happens. If she calls the directer because I doubled too quickly, at least I have what happened before in record here.

I am not saying what she did was wrong, learning how to play against opponents who makes director call whenever possible is helping me to compete in higher level games too. So that is actually a good thing for me.
Nov. 21, 2017
Yu Chang edited this comment Nov. 21, 2017
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@Reha, I had already explained that my partner had 0553 shape and would always pull even if the double is for penalty. Our agreement is the double would be cooperate double, he would pass with a less distributive hand.
There is no way I am going to be annoyed by my partner's correct action.

And I tried to avoid a director call by pausing before making the double. Again, I had explained that I think an instant double would be UI showing that is for penalty.

I got annoyed because my good intention backfired on myself. I will just go ahead and put the red card on the table instantly next time I play against this world class player.
Nov. 21, 2017
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@Paul, you are correct. I was trying to avoid UI, not to create UI.
@james, There is no honor to cheat. Sorry for the confusion. I tried to fix that sentence but it is too late now.
Nov. 21, 2017
Yu Chang edited this comment Nov. 21, 2017
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@Ray I do not wait for 10 seconds (I knew what ACBL asks) after skip bid.
I waited for about 5. That is still within the range of my normal tempo.
My pause was to avoid double instantly to show everyone in the world that I am doing a penalty double.

@Yu (It feels funny to me to call someone else Yu :-).
My wait was not long at all. It was within the range of my normal tempo.
Like I said to Ray above, it was only to make anyone know this is penalty.
Also, the opponent did not call director right away, it was done after my partner had bid 3C.
Nov. 17, 2017
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Thanks to everyone who had come here to help.
Knowing the law better will help me to decide how to behave next time.
Read below on what went through my mind at the table …

My hand was S Q98x H 10 D KQx C Axxxx.

The double was meant for penalty, but the best way to describe it is cooperate-penalty.
I have good defense value and a very good first lead.
But partner could bid something if his hand is not suitable for defense.

I knew double in a split second would raise some eyebrows (or even unethical).
That was why I waited awhile (very deliberately), the duration
was comparable to after someone did a skip bid.

My partner had 0553 shape and converted the double to 3C.
Our opponent called the director after 3C bid card was placed on the table.
Both my partner and I were pretty pissed with the director call
since neither of us felt it was break in tempo.
I was even more annoyed since I felt I should have just bid X without waiting.

2SX would have gone down just 1, so we went from a near-top 200 to average- 110.
Nov. 17, 2017
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Sorry, it was match point.
I will fix this when I figure out how to do it.
Sept. 18, 2017
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I am in ACBL. A lot of players leave the stop card on the table for 5-10 sec after they make the bid.

I agree with some of the comments that leaving the card on the table is a distraction.
July 4, 2017
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Here is the actual hand.

{handviewer d=w&v=n&w=sj8hqt86dq73ca963&n=skq6ha743djt6ct87&e=s975432h2dk8542c4&s=sathkj95da9ckqj52&a=ppp1cp1h3n?}

Sorry for the poor formatting, I do not know if there is a better way to do this.

———KQ6
———A743
———JT6
———T87
J8—————-975432
QT86————-2
Q73————–K8542
A963————-4
———AT
———KJ95
———A9
———KQJ52

After first lead of club and a ruff, North still has to lose 2 hearts for down 1.
4H by south seems to be a good bid but even with 10 points in North, it was defeated.

4SX would go down 3 for 500.
4DX could lose trump control and go down more.

Interesting things are:
- If you do not agree with the 3NT bid, put me in your camp.
- If East was 6-6, there would be no club ruff since East is either void in H of has no club to lead.
South has both Aces in other 2 suits, so West cannot get in to lead club back.
- Let us assume East is 6-6 by exchanging a diamond and a club between EW.
Take away spade queen or club 10, the contract is not makable.

I know the result does not justify the action but would seeing the actual hand and the “expected” very bad distribution change your mind from bidding 4H to Pass or Double?

BTW, I think it makes a lot of sense to use 4D bid as “power 4H call”.
May 27, 2017
Yu Chang edited this comment May 27, 2017
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Thanks for the detailed reply.

This reminds me that we usually pass with 6-7 flat hand.
XX usually shows 8+ balanced or 6-7 shapely hand such as 4441, or a hand with very bad 5-card suit.
May 27, 2017
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This is an interesting method. Thanks for sharing.

Using traditional approach, after RHO's 1S, I would think 3C is blocking.
May 27, 2017
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